Rosa Behman Schnapauff Gretsch Kling

 

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1856

June18 Rosa Behman  Born USA
  time of economic panic.
  According to Rosa's grandson, Teddy Clauss, when Rosa was a baby her parents died in the Cholera epidemic. Rosa was adopted by her parent’s friends, Carolina and Adolph Schnapphauff  . They had no children of their own. Carolina and Adolph are buried at Evergreen Cemetery Brooklyn.

1863

July 4 Rosa was 6 years old and the Civil War raging. The canons guarding the city of New York were fired all day long.
  Previously, they had been fired every morning in order to let the people know that there were boats and guns guarding them least they be invaded by the confederate troops.
July 13 New York Draft Riots, hundreds of blacks killed. This was the largest civil disturbance in American History to date.
November Alice Adams, sister of Henry Adams, was taken to 1303 Broadway near 35th street to the home of Dr. Taylor to be treated.

1867

January 13 The East River running between Manhattan and Brooklyn froze. For a short while it was possible to walk from New York to Brooklyn. Rosa's grandson, my uncle Fred talked about this. His grandmother must have told him the stories about the event from her childhood. She was 10 years old at the time. Or perhaps, he heard the story from his mother's mother, Theresa Leicht who was a young girl living in Manhattan at the same time.
  Negotiations on the Brooklyn Bridge began.

1869

June William Roebling injures his foot while surveying for the bridge and diesof tetanus days later. His son Washington continues. Caissons begin to be built for Brooklyn Bridge

1871

June 5 August Gretsch comes to America
   

1872

June 15 German reform party elected Wm. Havemeyer Mayor of NYC
fall Economic crash and panic, great depression begins

1873

January 13 Tompkins Sq. Riots.
Hand of the stature of Liberty was placed on 5th Ave.
May 13 Rosa's future husband, Fred Gretsch (age 16) arrived in America at Castle Garden.
He probably went to his Uncle Jacob's house at 329 South Second Street.
Perhaps, he stayed with his half brother William who ran a liquor business at 98 Fulton Street and lived at 16 St. Marks Place in Manhattan.
Perhaps, the family thought was that Fred would work for his older brother in the liquor business.
Instead, he went to work for the long defunct drum and banjo manufacturer, Albert Houdlett & Son.(Music Trades Magazine)

Fred, had several close relatives who had already come to American. His older cousin Pauline had come two years earlier. Pauline was the daughter of Karl Gretsch and was born in Simmern in 1856.
He had uncles on his mother's side and his father's side who had already settled in America.
Fred also had two first cousins Emily born in 1856 and Wilhelmina born in 1869. Like Rosa, they  were born in Brooklyn of German born parents.
Over the years, Emily and Rosa both very strong women and both very focused on the family would have gotten to know each other well.
It is interesting to speculate on the relationship between Rosa Gretsch and Emily Gretsch.
Fritz's mother's brothers was also settled in California when he arrived in America.

1874
 

  Jacob Edward von Gerichten comes to New York from Hamburg. He is the uncle of Fritz Gretsch.

did he stay in New York with Jacob Gretsch or perhaps, William Gretsch. Or perhaps, his nephews Fred and Louis Gretsch.

 

1876

January 13 Custer dies at battle of little big horn.
  Centennial exhibition at Philadelphia.

1877
 

  Fritz's sister Pauline arrives from Germany.
  William Gretsch, Fritz's older half brother is married in Manhattan

1878
 

  Fritz's sister Anna Maria Philippine, Bena, arrives from Germany.
November 10th Fritz's sister Pauline Gretsch is married to Conrad Benzing in Manhattan.

Fritz (aka Fred Gretsch) is a witness with Mary Schmann0

1879

Feb. 1 Rosa married Fritz Gretsch. According to her wedding certificate, she was 22 years old and born in 1856. She lived at 200 South 5th Brooklyn.
Fritz lived at 46 E 32 St NYC?

Witnesses were Louis Gretsch and Fredick Kilina (sp?)
 

December 28 In Scotland, the Tay Bridge collapsed in a storm only 19 months after its completion.
This bridge was a modern wonder and its unexpected failure shocked the world.
Surely, the young married couple read the news with great amazement.
  "Tand, tand ist das Gebilde von Menschenhand" is a line from Theodore Fontane's poem "Die Bruecke am Tay" written in 1887 which told of the disaster.

1880

February 10

To see an enlargement of this birth certificate, click on the image.
Rosa's first child Fred is born (Physician/Midwife- Dr.Rebmanny). Rosa's husband Fritz is listed as a "wholesale grocer" on the birth certificate.
The baby is born at the same address as Rosa's parents. Apparently, the young couple have moved in with Rosa's parents.
Note, that Rosa is listed as 23 years old born in 1856.
  According to the US Census of this year, Rosa and Fritz are living at 200 South 5th Street in the same building as Rosa's parents. Their son is 3 months old. Fritz is employed as a bookkeeper in a music store. Rosa's father is employed as a "picture color". Perhaps, he hand painted photographs.
Also living in the same building was Alexander Gumpert and his wife Cecila and infant daughter.
  Louis Gretsch is listed as a bookkeeper at 105 Wilson
William Gretsch is listed as a wine merchant at 37 4th Street in the Eastern District.
Jacob Gretsch with his wife Bertha and children are living at 102 Lewis Ave.
Bena, Fritz's youngest sister is living with Jacob and his family.
April Pauline Gretsch Benzing gives birth to Pauline in New Jersey.

 

1881

Dec.6 Frederick William Gerichten, uncle of Rosa's husband. dies in San Francisco. He was the younger brother but eldest of all of Fritz's mother's sibling. Fritz was no doubt named after him. He had left for America soon after Fritz was born in Mannheim.

He leaves a wife Josephine and possibly two children, Fred Gerichten and a daughter Anna Maria born in 1860.

He was buried in the family vault in San Francisco which was later moved to Greenlawn in Coloma.

There is a large contingent of Fred's family in California. Gerichten uncles and cousins in San Diego and in San Francisco.

1882

April 8 Rosa's second son, Walter Gretsch is born.

1883
 

April Another girl cousin is born. Wilhelmina Benzing born in New Jersey. The daughter of Pauline Gretsch.
April 23 Jacob Gretsch dies at 102 Lewis Ave. He leaves a widow and 4 minor children. His oldest daughter Emily is 29.
  Rosa's husband Fritz Gretsch left the Albert Houdlett & Son and starts Gretsch Musical Instruments a "small music shop at 128 Middleton Street, Brooklyn they manufactured drums, banjos, tambourines, toy drums for wholesalers like Bruno, Wurlitzer and Carl Fischer." (Music Trades Magazine)

I think that address is incorrect. According to Brooklyn Directories, the Middleton address for the Frederick Gretsch banjo business did not appear until 1890. Before then, the business was Fred Gretsch Drums at 134  1st Street.

For the following information , I thank the website: Tiki Kings Ukulele Database-Nu-Way

"Built by the Albert Houdlett & Son drum and banjo company. From what I understand, the Albert Houdlett & Son company started business in Brooklyn, New York, about 1865. They originally produced drums, then later added banjos to the line, which included "Lynbrook", "Nu-Art" and "Nu-Way" banjos. Around 1883, One of their employees, Friedrich Gretsch, left the company to form his own business, Fred Gretsch Mfg. Co., (also in Brooklyn) who made many instruments, but specialized in (and is still known for) drums. The Gretsch company is still in business today. The Albert Houdlett & Son drum and banjo company closed its doors around 1930.

 

May 24 Brooklyn Bridge opens. Longest suspension bridge in the world. Speeches and 14 tons of fireworks exploded! Everyone had the day off. President Chester Arthur was here.

Rosa and Fred I'm sure walked across the bridge with their young sons and dreamed dreams about their future in America. At a time when the tallest buildings were 6 stories high, the view from this bridge must have seemed like the view from a mountain top!
The bridge must have been a big part of their lives and their dreams!
 

May 30 Fear of collapse, causes Panic on Brooklyn bridge, one week after its opening. Twelve people died and 30 are injured.

Perhaps the crowd remembered the collapse of the Tay Bridge on December 28,1879. Perhaps, this is what caused the panic.

 1884
 

March 24 Fritz's sister Auguste Catharine Gretsch von Hellerman gives birth to a daughter in San Diego California.
 
April 9 Louis Gretsch becomes a citizen of the United States. Louis is living at 58 East Third Street in Manhattan.
William Gretsch, Louis's older half brother is his sponsor. William is living at 247 Vernon Street in Brooklyn.
 
April 28 Peter Karl von Gerichten dies in San Diego. He was a very successful business man.
 
July 3 Fritz's two younger brothers Philip and Jacob come to American.
 
September 23 Fred Gretsch becomes a citizen of the United States. John A. Dillmeier attests to his good character. The 1880 Census shows a John Dillmeier living in Brooklyn at 57 Montrose Ave. He is married, has 6 children and is from Bavaria

 1885

  Fred and Rosa live on 866 Willoughby Ave.
 
  Drums 134 1st Street E.D.
 
September 5 Fritz's sister Pauline dies at 102 Lewis Ave. She has been there for 2 months while she has been ill.
Her sister, Bena is now living with Jacob's family helping take care of the children.
Bertha Gretsch, Jacob's widow is sickly. O
n 3/2/1961, Jacob's daughter, Dora Gretsch wrote about the confusion in Jacob Gretsch's family in that period.
"Frank (Wintermantel- brother of Dora's mother) never lived at Stockton Ave. Frank left for Mexico while we were still at Lewis Ave. He was instrumental in getting Grandmother, Herman, Carl and Aunt Emma who married Conrad Benzing over from Germany then cleared out and left them on Mother and Aunt Jordan."
 
December 27 Rosa's first daughter, Elsa Gretsch born.
 

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This picture of Rosa's oldest son, Fred was taken around this time.

 1887
 

October 13 Helene Gretsch born, second daughter of Rosa and Fritz.
 
  William Gretsch is living at 212 Vernon Ave.
 
December 2 Rosa's stepfather, Adolph Schnappauf dies. He had been living at 128 Vernon Ave. His occupation is listed as "Banjo manufacturer". Quite possibly he was working for his son in law.
 

1889

May 5 Bena, Fred's youngest siter, also known as Philippine married Max Morgner. He is 26,she is 29.Carl Gretsch and Henry Stauf were witnesses. Bena and Max were both living at the same address at the time of their wedding. 300 E. 20th Street in Manhattan.
 
November Hertha Gretsch born, third daughter of Rosa and Fritz.
 

1890
 

  Fred and Rosa Gretsch are living at 20 Hart Street. This is located between Myrtle Ave to the North and Lafayette street to the south, Marcy to the East and Nostrand to the west .


Rosa's oldest son Fred proudly poses with his bicycle outside of the family home at 20 Hart Street. Note the flower in his lapel. Placed there no doubt by Rosa or Fred's grandmother, Caroline Schnappauff.

 

 

This picture of 20 Hart Street was taken in 1996 by me, Rosa's great granddaughter, Gretchen Elsner-Sommer.
Teddy took me there first in 1995. I returned with my husband David W. Cohen in 1996.
Note,
more than 100 years later the iron fence and the stoop just below the fense still remain.
Also the curved stone work on either side of the gated lower window remains.
In 1996, there is no garden in front, only space to store garbage cans.

  William Gretsch is living at 268 Hart Street.
  Frederick Gretsch Banjo's 130 Middleton
  Berta Gretsch Widow (Jacob) 340 Stockton
Again Dora's letter of 3/2/61describes the time frame. "We had one flat in Stockton and just Grandmother and Herman had two rooms on same floor but in a different apartment"
  Dora goes on to describe the fissure of the time..." Millie and Minnie never lived on Willoughby Ave. It was Hart St. and from there they moved to Grove St. a one way block and then to Decatur St. and now we have buried all that under the Blizzard of '88."
What was it that was all buried under the Blizzard?
Millie and Minnie, Jacob's daughter from earlier marriages were obviously living apart from their widowed step mother. The chaos caused by all of their step mother's family arriving from Germany must have driven Millie and Minnie to search for a separate place to live.
Emily or Millie was working as a school teacher.
March Clara Gretsch, daughter of Louis and Clara Gretsch born.

1891

March 6 Patent applied for a banjo by Frederick Gretsch
July 14 a U.S, Patten is awarded to Frederick Gretsch for a banjo.
November 1 Louie Gretsch's daughter, Olga is born
November 22 Rosa's youngest child, Herbert Gretsch born.

1892

February 16 Enumeration for Kings county:
Frederick Gretsch 36 years old    no occupation is written
Rosa Gretsch, 35 years old
Walter Gretsch, 10 years old
Frederick Gretsch, 12 years old
Louis Gretsch, 7 years old
Elsa Gretsch, 6 years old
Helnea Gretsch, 4 years old
Hertha Gretsch, 3 years old
Herbert Gretsch, 1 year old
 
Bertha Gretsch dies. She leaves three young children orphans. William 15, Dora 14, Ralph 13. These children were very close to the Fred and Rosa Gretsch family. They would all take vacations together to the Catskills.
Elsa and Dora were "very close-most like sisters" Dora wrote this in a letter dated Oct. 3, 1961 to her nephew William Gretsch.
"Little do we think when we are children how we separate when we grow older. Just as well."
  Court proceeding begin for the guardianship of the younger children of Jacob and Bertha Gretsch.

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This picture of Rosa's husband Fred and their three sons was probably taken around this time. Note the American flag in the background. The name of the boar they are pictured on is the "Henrietta".
This picture is very similar to the picture taken a few years later with Rosa and the children in a boat. See 1895.

1894


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This picture of Rosa's daughters Elsa age 8 and Helen was found in the papers of Helene Welsh when she died in Palm Beach.
The caption reads " An 1894 view of Grand Army Plaza from the collection of the Long Island Historical Society."
Teddy has identified the girls in the picture as "Mother" and "Aunt Helen Welch"

 

 

1895

  Gretsch business was located at 108 South 4th Street
April 10, Wednesday Fred Gretsch wrote his will the day before he was to leave for Europe.
Witnesses were John Bunneman and Florence Callahan both of 55 Hart Street. He left everything to Rosa. In the case of her death or remarriage, to the children and their issue.
April 11 Fred sailed on the Fuerst Bismark for Southampton.
 
April 28, Sunday Rosa's husband, Fred died in Hamburg from cholera.
 

Sterbeurkunde Friedrich Gretsch
Sterbe-Urkunde
Nr. 847
Hamburg, am 29. April 1895
Vor dem unterzeichneten Standesbeamten erschien heute der Persönlichkeit nach durch den mit Gewerbe-Anmeldungs-Schein legitimieren Kaufmann Eduard Friedrich Martin Kladt anerkannt, der Privatier Wilhelm Gretsch,
wohnhaft zu Mannheim, Litra O7, 19
und zeigte an, dass der Fabrikant Fritz Gretsch, 38 Jahre 11 Monate alt, evangelischer Religion,
wohnhaft zu Brooklyn, No 20 Hart Street im Staate New York in den Vereinigten Staaten von Nord-America,
geboren zu Mannheim, verheiratet mit Rosa geborene Schnapauff,
Sohn der zu Mannheim verstorbenen Eheleute, Kaufmann Wilhelm Gretsch und Maria geborene von Gerichten,
zu Hamburg, Glockengießerwall 16, am achtundzwanzigsten April vormittags um fünf einhalb Uhr verstorben sei,
was der Anzeigende aus eigener Wissenschaft bezeuge.
Vorgelesen, genehmigt und unterschrieben.
gez. Wilhelm Gretsch

This death certificate was found in the New York archive in 2003 by Mary Ann DiNapoli while doing research for Gretchen Elsner-Sommer, Fred and Rosa's great granddaughter. Transliteration of the text was done by Bettina Höcherl  of the Landesmuseum für Technik und Arbeit in Mannheim.
 

   
  Music Trades writes circa 1973, "At the time of his death (Frederick Gretsch, 1895) the firm was still small with only a dozen employee in a small wooden shanty converd from a stable on S. 4th Street.
 
May 27

 

 

George Seidenzahl of 23 Broadway and Louie Gretsch of 20 Vernon Ave were the executors of Fred's will. Fred left $18,000 worth of Real Estate and $8,000. worth of personal property.
George Seidenzahl died on Dec 29, 1899. He was 38 years old.
November 27 Rosa's husband was buried at Greenwood Cemetery.
It took quite a while to retrieve Fred's body from Europe because of the cholera epidemic.
When Rosa purchased this plot, she was making quite an independent statement.
The members of the Gretsch family who had died in America were all buried at the Evergreen Cemetery.
This was quite a departure.
 
This is the first picture I can find of Rosa. It was given to me by her grandson Teddy Clauss. The picture was probably taken around the time of her husband's death.

Teddy made a diagram of the picture to identify everyone in the picture. He identifies his grandmother as MuMu and entitles the picture : Summering at Sea Cliff, L.I.

On the back of the picture is information about the Photographer S.T, Harding. The picture was probably taken at a sea side amusement park. It is dated 1894.


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1897

February 19 At 3 a.m. Rosa's mother, Caroline Schnappauff died at 20 Hart Street. She had been sick for 8 days with pneumonia.  The death certificate was delivered to Mr. L. Gretsch. I imagine that this is Rosa's brother in law and not her son. Her son would have been only 14.
Caroline Schnauppauff was the only grandmother that the Gretsch children knew. She was buried at The Evergreens Cemetery along side her husband, Adolf who had died in 1887.
There were two families living at 20 Hart Street at the time.
After the death of her mother, Rosa, a widow with 7 children decided to supplement the family income by taking in boarders.
Quite possibly it is at this time that Jacob Hyman, a retired businessman came to live with the family.
There is no record of exactly when Jacob came to live in the family home at 20 Hart Street but a newspaper report states that in 1915 he had been living with the Gretsch family for almost 20 years.

In 1897, Hertha was  approximately 7 years old. She was the youngest girl in the family and apparently the most reserved. No doubt she had been saddened by the sudden death of her father and so soon afterwards, the death of her grandmother. Jacob Hyman and Hertha would become good friends in the years to come.
 
  In this year, the Frederick Gretsch Musical Instruments first appeared on South 4th Street.
Rosa Gretch w'Fred'k musicalinstmfr 108 S.4th. h.20 Hart.
Incredible to see Rosa's name as the main name in the manufacturing line.
 
October 24 Jacob Gretsch, Rosa's youngest brother in law died of Tuberculosis.
Jacob was the youngest of the children of William and Anna Maria von Gerichten. He had come to America in 1884 on the same day as his older brother Philip. Jacob stayed in Brooklyn but Philip went on to California to be with the Von Gerichen side of his family.

Jacob died at 247 East 24th Street in Manhattan. This is the home of Bena Gretsch Morgner and her husband Max. He was 30 years old.
It must have been a very sad time for the Gretsch children to loose so many relatives in such a short period of time. Jacob Gretsch was buried along side Rosa's parents in the Evergreens Cemetery.
It was the second time in less than one year when the children had visited this cemetery plot.
Jacob was not buried with his brother Fred in the newly purchased Greenwood Cemetery plot.
 

 1898
 

July 25 The husband of Rosa's sister in law, Philippine Gretsch Morgner dies.  Max Morgner is buried at a Mount Pleasant Gravesite in Evergreen Cemetery. Also buried there is his infant son Hans Morgner and his sister in law, Pauline Gretsch Benzing.
   

 

1899

July 6 Louis Gretsch graduates from Grammar School # 25. this was on Lafayette Street not far from Lewis Ave. It was only about a six block walk from 20 Hart Street. Wilhelmina T. Gretsch, daughter of Jacob Gretsch graduated from here in 1885. Probably, this is the school which all of the Rosa's children attended.
December 29 George Seidenzahl died after a short illness. He was 38 years old. He was one of the executors of Rosa's husband's estate. He lived at 20 Van Buren Street. Perhaps, they were friends and Rosa attended the funeral. In 1895, he lived at 23 Broadway.

1900
 

  According to the US Census, Rosa is living on Hart Street with her seven children. She owns her own house and is listed as working for musical Instuments along with her two sons. There is no boarder living at the house.
  She is listed as 39 years old and born in 1861.

1902

  Fred Gretsch Musical Instruments, 104 S. 4th St. h. 20 Hart Street
Rosa, widow Fred, h.20 Hart Street.
(Brooklyn Directories)
October 3 The house on Hart Street is sold to Josephine M. Gatter. The family moves to Bath Beach very near to where Bena (Philippine) Gretsch Morgner and her daughter Johanna live. Johanna and Hertha are first cousins and very close in age. Quite possibly they were close friends while they were growing up. Both girls grew up without a father and both girls traveled very far from home as soon as they were able.

1903

  Rosa is living at Bay 25th Street and Benson Avenue with her children.

1904

January 20 Hertha's brother Fred marries Charlotte Sommer. Walter and Elsa are the witnesses.

1905

  According to the New York State Census, Rosa is living at 79 Bay 25th Street Walter, Louis, Elsa, Helene , Hertha and Herbert. Hertha is 15 years old. Rosa is listed as 44 years old.
  It was around this time that Hertha came down with Scarlett Fever. She had to stay in bed in a darkened room for weeks. She had pain in her limbs and was subjected to uncontrolled movements in her arms and legs. This disease left her with a scared heart which later be the cause of her early death. But more immediately, this disease left Hertha with much time to be alone. 
  It was this time that laid the foundation for her future travels. This time of isolation and contemplation allowed her to think about alternatives for herself. She was not to be allowed the life of her healthier older sisters Elsa and Helen. She started thinking differently.
  Ted Clauss believed that Hertha grew to be such a large woman ( much larger than either of her sisters)because she spent so much time in bed in the years that she was growing. Ted believed that his cousin William Gretsch also grew to be such a large man (much bigger than either of his brothers) because due to infantile paralysis he also spent a lot of time in bed as child.
March 10 Rosa's first grandchild Fred Gretsch Jr. is born. He is the son of Fred and his wife Charlotte Sommer Gretsch.
  Philippine Morgner is running a boarding house near where Rosa and her children live. William Gretsch and his wife Lucille and their two children are living with her. William is the son of Jacob Gretsch.
April 24 Fred Gretsch Realty Company is Incorporated. Documents are signed by Rosa Gretsch of bay 25th Street and Benson Ave, Frederick Gretsch of 178 Nostrand Ave, and Walter Gretsch of Bay 25th Street adn Benson Ave.

1906
 

  Rosa's second granson, William Walter Gretsch is born to Fred and Charlotte.

1907

April 10 Louie Gretsch died, brother of Rosa's first husband.
 
June 8 An inventory of Fred Gretsch's will was made. Was this done because Louie died?
  Quite possibly during this summer, Baby William Gretsch came down with polio. It must have frightening the whole family.

Helene Gretsch graduated from Eramus High School in Brooklyn.

 

June 24 Rosa married David Kling. (Teddy told me he was a friend of her first husband both men had come from the same town in Germany Manheim- I did find reference to von Gerichten's marrying a Kling and so they might have been cousins or acquaintances through Fritz's mother-Anna Maria von Gerichten), They were married at the Richmond Hill house on Waterbury Ave.
Rosa is listed as 46 years old, born in 1861. She is the same age as her husband.
  David is listed as living in Richmond Hill at time of marriage. Rosa was living in Bensonhurst on Bay 25th street
 
June Rosa's daughter Elsa graduates from Teachers Training School in Brooklyn.
 
July 18 Fred and Walter issue to Elsa Gretsch 42 shares of the Fred Gretsch Manufacturing Company. (Documents given to GES by Billy Clauss at Teddy Clauss' funeral in 1999. 
 
September Dora Gretsch travels to Germany. Dora is at the time involved with a man she met in the Catskills. Her sisters Emily and Wilhelmina do not approve of the match.

 1909

June 2 Elsa married Joe Clauss in Richmond Hill. Elsa was living with Fred and Charlotte at the time.
  Herbert, Rosa's youngest child graduates from Erasmus High School.
  Rosa's son Walter travels to Germany for business.

1910

March 11 Rosa's daughter, Helene Gretsch, gives a  performance as Helene Hope at a New York theatre.
 
March 15

Thursday,

Rosa's daughter, Helene Gretsch, graduates from The American Academy of Dramatic Arts. 
A New York Times article dated March 16, reads "The graduation exercises of the American Academy of Dramatic Arts were held at the Empire Theatre yesterday afternoon and consisted of the awarding of diplomas to members of the class and of an address by Helen Ware."

In 1980, Ted Clauss wrote to me that the American Academy of Dramatic Arts was a four year program held at Carnegie Hall.
Before entering that course, Helene studied at The Emerson School Of Elecution in Boston, Mass.
 

Helene Hope on stage during this period.

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Ted Clauss wrote further of Helen's work " Aunt Helen's first work in the theater was secured for her through the Academy, and she had small parts in plays with De Wolfehopper. Later, she toured in  straight with Sidney Drew, in light comedy, and also with John Drew, in the heavy stuff. She did no musicals. During the years she did several short plays with Wiliam Farnaum, one of which I saw at the Flatbush Theater in 1918, and can still remember it. She had a regular agent, who shipped her on tours all over the U.S. and Canada. She used the stage name Helene Hope . She also toured with Otis Skinner of theatre fame and knew Cornelia Otis Skinner the  monologuist (?)"
 

February 21 Mary Mallon in the papers again being released from custody.
March 31 Elsa Gretsch Clauss gives birth to her first child, Theodore.
May 2 US Census enumerates:
David Kling (49) and Rosa (50)  living with Walter, Louis, Helene, Hertha (20) and Herbert at 28 West 97th Street in Manhattan. They are renters in a large building which housed 11 other unites.  From the census, it looks like it was the largest building in the neighborhood. David Kling  is listed as a "Waiter", Walter is a "Manufacturer" and Louis is in "Real Estate". Hertha and Helene are not working and Herbert is in school.
  The US Census also enumerates Millard F and Amelia L Garwood at 129 West 96th Street. Millard works for the RR and Amelia is the keeper of a Boarding House.
In 1919, Millard F and Amelia L Garwood signed Rosa's will. They are the same age as Rosa and they used to live in Brooklyn at 420 Bergen Street.
By 1920, Rosa has moved to Sidney Place in Brooklyn but the Garwoods still live at the same address.

1912

December 4 New York times reports that Herbert Gretsch received a Varsity letter for Baseball! Herbert's older brothers were very involved with business. Herbert being the youngest in the family probably didn't get much respect for his ability on the sports field.
Dec.21 Fred and Walter give Elsa Clauss 42 shares of the Fred Gretsch Manufacturing Company. Documents given to GES by Billy Clauss at Teddy Clauss' funeral in 1999(?)
June 22 Bena's daughter, Johanna M. Morgner age 21 marries Fred C. Brose, rancher, age 29, in Wenatchee, County of Chelan, Washington State.
Johanna's mother ( Philipppine) travels all the way to Washington state
for the wedding. They are married by a Catholic priest.
Hertha would have taken special note of so much traveling by the girls in the family.
Perhaps, she talked about this with her friend Jacob Hyman. Jacob was perhaps by this time, again living with the family at 42 Sidney Place.

 

1914

  Rosa and family moved to Brooklyn Heights, 42 Sidney Place.
 
April Several times in this month, Rosa's youngest son Herbert is mentioned in the New York Times for his playing third base on the Columbia University Baseball Team.
 
June 4 Herbert graduates from Columbia University with a degree in Civil engineering. He is the only one of the Gretsch children to graduate from College. He is also the youngest of all the children.
June 21 New York Times
" Big Brooklyn Factory Deal"
An important Brooklyn deal in the Williamsburg section has been made in the purchase by the Gretsch Corporation of a plot 75 by 140 feet between the North West Corner of Berry and South Fifth Street. A seven story concrete factory will be erected on the site, which will be factory number 3 of the Gretsch Corporation. Factories 1 & 2 being in close proximity.. The plot purchased faces the Brooklyn and the Williamburgh Bridge and is now covered by six houses. James B. Fisher was the Brooker.
 
June 27 The New York times reports that a $200,000.00 lease was closed yesterday with Schaffer and Budenburg, manufacturers of Steam guages and thermometer for the greater part of the new concrete factory to be erected by the Gretsch Cooperation on the northwest corner of Berry and South 5th Street facing the Williamsburg Bridge. the construction of the factory which will be 7 stories will be commenced immediately upon the demolition of the seven dwelling houses now on the plot. It will be ready for occupancy January 1, 1915.
 
June 28 Archduke Ferdinand and his wife are assassinated. In August WW1 begins.
 
December 23 Philippine Gretsch Morgner commits suicide. The cause of death as stated on her death certificate was "Illumination Gas poisoning".

Philippine or Aunt Bena as Hertha would have called her, was the youngest girl in the family of Manheim Gretsch's.

An article in the Brooklyn Eagle of that date reads "Suicide By Gas In Her Boarding House. Mrs. Morgan, Keeper of Myra Cottage Ends life in her Bath Beach Place. Mrs. Philpmenia Morgan, 53 years old, who conducted a boarding house at the foot of Bay Twenty-third street know as Myra cottage, committed suicide today by inhaling illumination gas in her home.
At 8 o'clock this morning, John Anderson, a boarder smelled gas escaping and made an investigation. He discovered that it came from Mrs. Morgan's room, and when he could get no response to his knocks, he forced open the door and discovered her lying upon her bed. All the gas jets in the room had been turned on and the windows tightly fastened.
When Dr. Kahn of the Coney Island Hospital was called in, he said that the woman had been dead for some time. No reason is known for the suicide. She left two letters written in German, which were turned over to the coroner's office."

N.B. John Anderson had been living in the same boarding house with Phillipine for more than ten years. First he worked as a scaffold rigger and later he worked in the boarding house as a general helper.

In 14 years, Philippine moved at least three times within the same neighborhood. She supported herself and her daughter by running boarding houses.

For several years, Hertha and her family lived in Bath Beach near Philippine and her daughter Johanna. It is quite possible that Hertha and her cousin Johanna were close friends.

For more information about Philippine, go to "Timelines" on the navigation bar of this website.

 

Some after 1912, William Gretsch, older brother of Rosa's first husband died. He set up a trust fund in his will for Rosa.William had no children and had moved back to Germany.
City Bank Farmers Trust Company was the executor and trustee.

 1915

January 13 Jacob Hyman dies in the Jewish Hospital in Brooklyn. He was living at the time with the Gretsch family with whom he had lived as a boarder for 20 years. Jacob was a retired prominent Brooklyn business man.
 
January 14 The following picture and obituary appeared in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, the day after Jacob's death. To see an enlargement click on the image.

Jacob Hyman, of 42 Sidney place, a well known figure in downtown Brooklyn business circles, died yesterday in the Jewish hospital, aged 72 years. After coming to this country from Russia as a boy, Mr. Hyman quickly became a merchant of prominent in lower New York City, both in the clothing and in the jewelry business. From these enterprises he gained a considerable fortune, and about 20 years ago retired and from that time on till he died he resided in Brooklyn among old friends of his younger days. Soon after his retirement from business he became an ardent devotee of fishing, and hardly a day in summertime passed when he did not bring home a credible catch. To his love of this sport, his general outdoor life and his cheerful mode of living, Mr. Hyman gave the credit for his long life. Mr. Hyman was well known for his numerous works of charity, and many struggling Jewish congregations revere the name of the kindly old man whose generous aid helped them to success. Lawyer Isaac W. Jacobson, executor of the estate intimates that a surprise will be sprung this week when Mr. Hyman's will is offered for probate. Funeral services will be held in the chapel at 18 Clinton street tomorrow morning at 11 o'clock, Rabbi Steven Wise of the Free Synagogue in Manhattan officiating. Interment will be in the family plot Bay Side . L.I. 

 

January 26
Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Page 16,
GIRL WHO SAT STILL REWARDED IN WILL
Bertha Gretsch, Fishing Companion Of Jacob Hyman, Gets Half Estate.
An echo of the pleasant afternoons fifteen years ago, when he used to take fishing with him a little girl who, of all those he knew sat stillest when the first were biting, is reflected in the provision of the will of Jacob Hyman, late of 42 Sidney Place, retired merchant, that one-half of his estate, amounting to a substantial sum, should go to Miss Bertha Gretsch, 23 years old, of the Sidney street address, with whose family Mr. Hyman had made his home for many years. The beneficiary is a sister of Louis Gretsch real estate dealer, of 177 Remson street.
 

Mr. Hyman, who was well known for his numerous acts of charity and the aid he gave many struggling Jewish congregations since his retirement twenty years ago, as a clothier and jeweler on Broadway, Manhattan, died of cancer in his seventy-third year at the Jewish Hospital on January 13. He was never married and Lawyer Isaac W. Jacobson, the sole executor of the estate, is now preparing, preliminary to the filing of the will this week, a list of first cousins, among whom the other half fo the estate is to be distributed. There are sixteen altogether and they are widely scattered.

Miss Gretsch was graduated from Erasmus High School several years ago. She had three sisters and four brothers. Mr. Hyman lived with he family in Bensonhurst.  Mr. Hyman had two recreations, one fishing and the other matinees. He attended a matinee almost every afternoon, frequently taking the Gretsch children with him. The children also were his fishing companions.

Mr. Jacobson declared today that Mr. Hyman's estate will be very large.

 

January 27 After the news had broken, the story because it was so charming was picked up and sent around the country.
Marion, Ohio newspaper, News Nuggests,  Front Page
"Reward for Sitting Still"   " Because she always sat still in the stern sheets when she went dishing with him. Jacob Hyman a wealthy jeweler bequeathed his niece Hertha Gretsch age 23, on half of his estate, mounting to $50,000."
January 28 On the front page of the Washington Post,
" She sat still got fortune. Jeweler remembers girl who keep quiet and didn't scare the fist. Mis Bertha Gretsh of 42 Sidney Place Bensonhurst inherited half the estate of the late Jacob Hyman......etc

The story also appeared on the same day in the Fort Wayne, Indiana paper. Several of the facts were wrong however. Hertha was listed as Bertha, she was also noted as Jacob's niece and his estate was stated as $50,000.

One can imagine the stir this must have caused in Hertha's life.
 
February 16 Jacob Hyman's lawyer fills a petition to The Surrogate Court of the County of Kings to prove the last will and testament of Jacob Hyman.
February 20 Helene Gretsch who was in the county of Hamilton, Ohio at the time petitioned the court that K. C.& M. V. McDonald  at 189 Montague Street in Brooklyn appear for her in the up coming proceedings.
Helene was apparently traveling with an acting troop.
March 4 K.C. & M.C. McDonald send a notice of appearance to the Surrogate Court.
April 19 Surrogate Court.

During the proceeding the cousins of Jacob Hyman claim that his last will "was procured by fraud and undue influence practiced upon the decedent by Hetha Gretsch, Helena Gretsch, Elsa Clauss, and of other persons acting in concert or privity with them, whose name or manes are at present unknown to those objectors and contestors."

 

May 5 Hertha's stance in the courtroom is noted in this Brooklyn Daily Eagle article which appeared on May 5. Unfortunately, the article only records her silence and tells us no more about her life. To see an enlargement of the article click on the image.

May 6 The Brooklyn Daily Eagle

Girl Gets Hyman Estate
Cousins Fail in Contest of Jacob Hyman's Will
The jury in the Surrogate's court yesterday refused to take from Miss Hertah (sic) Gretsch of 42 Sidney place the $10,000 inheritance she was given by Jacob Hyman. The jury took but a short time after the cousins contestof Mr. Hyman's will was given to them, to decide that the will was valid and should be admitted to probate. Surrogate Ketcham accepted the verdict and denied a motion made by counsel for the contestants to set it aside as against the evidence.
Miss Hertah (sic) Gretsch and her two sisters Helena Gretsch and Elsa Claus, are thus given the entire estate of $20,000 left by Hyman, who had lived with their family for almost twenty years. Miss Hertah (sic) Gretsch receives one-half the estate and each of her sisters receives a fourth.

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New York Times

Silence Wins a Girl $10,000. Angler’s Legacy to Companion Who Kept Quiet is Upheld.
A jury before Surrogate Ketcham in Brooklyn yesterday decided the will of Jacob Hyman who gave his estate to Herta Gretsch and her two sisters, Helena and Elas was valid. Hyman lived with the Gretsch family at 42 Sidney Place Brooklyn. He died January 13.

Miss Herta Gretsch while a young girl often accompanied Hyman on fishing trips. Her sisters also went along but Herta always obeyed Hyman’s instructions to keep perfectly quiet while the fish were biting and this won Hyman’s admiration for her to the extant of his leaving her half of his estate of $20,000. The other sisters each received one forth. After the will was filed for probate relatives of Hyman contested it. They alledged that the testator was mentally unsound.

May 7 The Lusitanian is sunk by German submarine.

1914-1920

  Teddy told me that Rosa spent summers at Bernardsville, New Jersey  on the Bliss Estate. Her husband David Kling was a Gentleman's Gentleman to Mr. Bliss. I can find no record of this....only Teddy's recollections of spending summers at his grandmother's cottage on the estate.

 

1915-34

(possibly even before then) Rosa often played the Piano for fund raisers for "Good Will".
Teddy remembers especially his grandmother's playing for the large Abraham and Strauss Department store in Brooklyn at Christmas time. As a young boy, Teddy would go with her and turn the pages of her music as she played.
Rosa was very dedicated to Good Will and always baked for them. She also enlisted her children especially Elsa and possible Hertha to work also for Good Will.
Rosa's daughter in law, Charlotte Sommer Gretsch wrote in her diary on Tuesday May 5, 1925 " Miss L. Eifert--Good Will" Perhaps, Charlotte was attending a benefit for her mother in law.
On May 11 of the same year, Charlotte entered in her diary " Spring Luncheon Good Will Circle".
Besides Teddy's recollections, there are the only references I can find in the family to Rosa's interest in "Good Will".

1918
 

  Rosa's daughter Hertha begins her long trip by first traveling to California. She wrote home constantly to her mother.
November 11 World War 1 ends.

 

1919

July 29 Rosa wrote her will.
" I Rosa Kling, of the Borough of Brooklyn, Country of Kings, City of an Stage of New York, considering the uncertainly of this mortal life, and being of sound mind and memory, do make this my last will and testament.
I bequeath to my husband David Kling the sum of Three thousand dollars$3.000.00. The remainder of my estate, both real and personal to be devided (sic) equally between my seven children, Frederick Gretsch, Walter Gretsch, Louis Gretsch, Elsa Clauss, Helene Welsh, Hertha Gretsch and Herbert Gretsch.
I appoint Frederick Gretsch Executor of this my last will and testiment (sic).
In witness whereof I have this day hereunto subscribed my name this 29th day of July in the year of our Lord 1919. Rosa Kling. Witnesses Millard F. Garwood, Amelia L. Garwood
August 21 Rosa's son Walter applies for a US Passport in order to go to Europe on a buying trip for the Fred Gretsch Manufacturing Company. Two letters are written on his behalf. One from Reubin W. Shatan, the assistant secretary of the Manufacturer's Trust Company and another by his brother Fred Gretsch, President of the Fred Gretsch Manufacturing Company.
Walter is 5 feet, 5 1/2 inches tall, blue eyes, brown hair, medium nose.
December 1 Rosa's youngest daughter Hertha applied for a passport to go to Asia from Honolulu. Rosa knew that her daughter was in Honolulu but most likely she didn't know that was planning on traveling in Asia. Hertha's passport was awarded on December 22.
For more information about Hertha and her passport application which contains many discrepancies go to Hertha's time line on this website.

1920

January 4 Rosa and her husband David are living at 42 Sidney place with Walter, Louie (Real Estate) and Herbert (Civil Engineer).
David is listed as a clerk.
Rosa is listed as 54 years old (born in 1866) and four years younger than her husband.
January 17 Walter who is working for the Fred Gretsch Manufacturing Company wrote a letter to the Dept of State requesting a passport for his soon to be wife, Gertrude Beandall Gourlay. They are to be married on January 25th. They plan to sail together on the Rotterdam to Europe on a business/ wedding trip of February 7. Walter swears that he had known her for 10 years.
January 25 Walter Gretsch married Gertrude Beandall Gourlay ( a widow)

1922
 

July 18 Louis Gretsch applied for a pass port. He was planing to leave on July 26th for a pleasure trip to Europe. Louis was 5 feet 9 inches tall with brown eyes and harie and a Roman nose. He had distinguishing marks on his right arm. He will be accompanied by his wife Marian.
  According to Gertrude Gretsch, on their honey moon in Europe, they traveled with Walter and Gertrude Gretsch. In Paris, they all met up with Hertha and "brought her home". Why exactly she needed to be brougth home is not clear.
  In 1999, Marion Gretsch Wells wrote to me about her mother...My mother's maiden name was Downey. her father started the Holy Family Hospital. (This is the hospital where Rosa's youngest daughter died in 1936. Teddy told me that Hertha received very good care there because of the family's connection to the hospital's founder.) Marion's grandfather founded St. Mary's. Mother was a fascinating person. she drove an ambulance in W.W. I in New York and in the thirty's she started the Immaculate Conception Day Nursery near the Brooklyn Naval Yard and funded it with a huge luncheon, bridge and fashion show at the Waldorf yearly."
Apparently, Marion Downey Gretsch was also a good friend of Helen Mooney Gretsch's mother.

 

1923
 

August 1 Gertrude Gretsch, daughter of Walter and Gertrude Gretsch is born. Gertrude is Rosa's first granddaughter.
  Gertrude grew up close to her cousin Marion Gretsch. Marion was younger than Gertrude and she was also an only child.

1925
 

June 11 Rosa's son Fred Gretsch is issued a US Passport.

1926
 

June 18 Rosa’s Birthday. On this day, Fred & Charlotte & Dick sailed for Europe
July 13 Rosa purchased a home at 115-31 Union Turnpike in Forest Hills Gardens. is is located near the corner of Union Turnpike and Greenway North. This was a one family private dwelling of stucco construction. The lot was 40 feet by 122. At the time of purchase Rosa acquired a mortgage of $11,500.00. The value of the home in 1934 was $15,500.
  Teddy remembers that they had a large garden there and dogs that she had brought home from Germany.
  Gertrude her grandchild remembers going there and playing with large bags of clothes that Rosa kept for her grandchildren to dress up in.
  Gertrude remembers Hertha being there and thinking that she was so beautiful.
  Gertrude remembers not seeing much of her cousins Fred, Bill and Richard because her father Walter and his brother Fred were in such a terrible fight.
But Gertrude remembers being told that Charlotte was so beautiful.

 1928

May Rosa's daughter in law Charlotte Gretsch dies. Charlotte was 47 years old.

 

1930

September 16 Louie Gretsch guarantees payment for Rosa on a second mortgage she had secured on a building at 269 Prospect Place in Brooklyn.
The original mortgage was made to Sydney Place Cooporation on September 7, 1927.
At Rosa's death, the three daughters received one third interest in the principal Elsa, Helene and Hertha equal to $1,500.00. But what happened to the building which was worth $59,500.?
   

1932
 

April Dr. Eugene Cronin begins taking care of Rosa and treating her for myocarditis.

1934

Dec 22 Rosa died at 7:30 pm at home from Myocarditis. She had been suffering with this for 14 months. contributing to her death was chronic kidney disease. apparently, she nurses taking care of her at home. Three nurses, Miss C. Center, Miss M. Mooney and Miss Marg McHugh were all paid from her estate for their services.
On the same day that Rosa died, her grandson Richard Gretsch was returning to New York from a trip around the world.
Dec 26 Rosa was buried at Greenwood Cemetery Brooklyn. She is  listed there as Rosa Gretsch. Lot 292-61 sec. 145

1935

February 28 An Inventory of the Household Effects, Etc of Rosa Kling was submistted to the Surrogate Court of Queen's County.
  The final appraisal value was $841.00
By far the most expensive item in Rosa's house was a Steinway and Son, Walnut Parlor Grand Piano # 246076.
Most of the other furniture was described as "broken", "cheap grade", "worn", "long in use", "stained", "discolored", "chiped" .
 

At the time of Rosa's death, her children were living at the following addresses:
Fred--37 Shorthill Road
Walter--321 Washington Avenue, Brooklyn
Louis--7 Montague Terrace, Brooklyn
Elsa Clauss--1707 Avenue N, Brooklyn
Helene Welsh--237 Greenway North
Hertha--115-31 Union Turnpike
Herbert--280 Brower Ave., Rockville Centre, Nassau County

1936

 

January 18 Hertha dies at Holy Family hospital in Brooklyn
June1 Helene Welsh is named Administratrix of Hertha's estate. Helene's address is listed as 37 Shorthill Road.
It appears that soon after Rosa's death. Helene and her husband were divorced and Helene moved in with her brother Fred.
Elsa Clauss had moved to 7666 Austin Street.




This time line was begun on Easter Tuesday, April 13, 1993 and continuously revised

Wird sich die Geschichte anders ausnehmen, wenn wir sie (die Geschichte) durch das Prisma ihres Lebens und Werkes betrachten?

Hannah Arendt on Rosa Luxemburg

 

This page was last edited on  05/25/2007